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November 5, 2009 [Thursday]

Important Information on Renaissance Park Retail

by Anthony McLeod

We would like to let everyone know that on Monday, November 9th at 7PM the Southwest Citizens Advisory Council will be hosting the Renaissance Park Developer Amelia Park, LLC to discuss their plan and hear our ideas on the adjacent retail area to our neighborhood.  It is important that everyone who can come please be in attendance.  The meeting is held at Carolina Pines Community Center (2305 Lake Wheeler Road).

Here is the information from the SWCAC agenda:

Commercial Activity at the corner of South Wilmington Street and Tryon Road the plan for Renaissance Park includes three blocks of retail with this corner corner block being developed first. At this time Amelia Park LLC the parent of Renaissance Park, is planning to fill that first block with GOLDEN CORRAL and Strayer University. Representatives from Amelia Park LLC and Golden Corral will join us to discuss their plan and to hear our ideas. This will be the time to express your opinions about what type of businesses you will be willing to support in that area.

http://raleighnc.gov/publications/Community_Services/CAC-Agendas/CAC-south_west-agenda.pdf

It is important that we have a good showing at the meeting so please come if at all possible.  If you have an opinion on what retail you would like to see within walking distance of our community this is your place to express that opinion.

We look forward to seeing you at the meeting and encourage you to get there as early as possible.

8 Responses to “Important Information on Renaissance Park Retail”

Anthony Says:

What would you like to see in our retail area?

November 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
sabrefox Says:

Thanks for the info Anthony. Unfortunately I’ll be out of town on business and my wife will be attending class that night. It would be nice for someone who does attend to “take minutes” and post a synopsis of the discussion pertaining to this topic.

I must admit I am a bit surprised and less than thrilled about these two businesses being the first ones in the development. It seems to fly in the face of our namesake to allow businesses that are already established less than 1 mile from here to relocate to our retail area – that doesn’ t sound like a Renaissance to me. I’d rather see some businesses that are not already represented in the area. I had envisioned something a little more upscale than a Golden Corral here. The reviews of the one up the street are less than satisfactory and I don’t have faith that relocating here would change that. Additionally, I can’t believe that having a Golden Corral on the corner is going to help this development sell more houses. Wouldn’t we rather have something more appealing?

Perhaps I’d feel better if I knew more about what type of businesses they are planning in putting in the rest of the development. When we were inquiring about the retail area before we purchased here, we were told that the only chain retailers they were considering at that time was a pharmacy and a Starbucks. Perhaps the economic situation has changed, but the idea of giving small businesses a chance to flourish here with an installed customer base (us) – THAT sounds like a Renaissance.

I understand that starting off this development with a non-chain restaurant would be very risky; however, to me, Golden Corral is not the “something special” kind of restaurant I’d like to see here. My wife and I would like a Panera Bread or Bear Rock Cafe, something ethnic like Pei Wei Asian. All of these examples don’t have stores already in the vicinity. Some other retailers we’d like to see here is a Trader Joe’s or Fresh Market or similar unique market. I think a pharmacy, Walgreens or CVS would be a good choice as a store that would provide an immediate benefit to our community.

By the way, if anyone who reads this plans on attending, feel free to take this along and share it. I’d love to hear what other homeowners here have to say.

November 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
sclarke Says:

I couldn’t agree more. Golden Corral and Strayer University is not my idea of what we need in our community. I, too, was hoping for something more upscale, most definitely. A good example to look at is the retail development on the corner of Tryon and Walnut, I believe it is. I would like to see a Harris Teeter or Fresh Market, a coffee shop that serves bagels and breakfast is a good idea. The Flying Biscuit at Cameron Village is good and original.
Also, I would like to have a pharmacy, dry cleaners, ice cream shop, and maybe a Blockbuster or Hollywood video close by. Cameron Village is another good place to get ideas. They have lots of fun and unique shops. I don’t want to see any fast food chains either. We have enough of those. I absolutely think we can do better than Golden Corral and a university. Please let us hear some others’ thoughts.

November 6th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
tabasnig Says:

Golden Corral wouldn’t be my first choice either considering that there is already a Golden Corral restaurant located within a mile or so of Renaissance Park on Highway 70 next to the Garner Ale House.

As far as Strayer goes, they are also currently located within a mile of Renaissance Park (on Garner Station Blvd) so I don’t understand why they would be building on that corner unless they are looking to expand.

So both businesses already have an established presence in the area and must be successful to consider such a move. By moving to a new building less than a mile away they will likely benefit from a newer, larger facilities and possibly lower facility costs. But while it may be positive for them, it is certainly negative for the community.

This move would leave two older, empty buildings sitting within a mile of our community that are less attractive to new businesses because they must be renovated and the location is less desirable. I think it will be difficult to find new tenants/owners for this space and, like the old Wal-Mart building, they will just sit empty.

And since both GC and Strayer already have a presence in the area, the move won’t attract new customers to the area so there’s no growth in the customer base meaning that there’s no additional incentive to other investors to bring new businesses here. If we want a successful retail area, we need to encourage new business that will attract consumers from the surrounding neighborhoods that would otherwise go to Crossroads, White Oak, or Cameron Village to find what they want.

In the end, we can take the businesses in the area and move them from building to building forever, but that’s not growth. We need new businesses that will succeed in the current demographic and also attract new customers from surrounding areas.

November 9th, 2009 at 9:27 am
cgreer Says:

This neighborhood would not benefit from the addition of Golden Corral or A Strayer University. When I decided to purchase in this neighborhood, I bought into the vision of revitalizing South Raleigh; helping to bring new life and economic prosperity into a depressed region of the city. I like that this area seems progressive and has room to grow as opposed to the very saturated region in North Raleigh.

A Golden Corral and a Strayer University, two businesses that are already located within a mile of this neighborhood, can hardly be seen as progressive and foward-thinking. Because the majority of the neighborhood has already earned college degrees, the majority of the customer base for Strayer will be outsiders coming into the neighborhood. Additionally, this neighborhood was promoted as a place to encourage a healthy lifestyle; placing a Golden Corral within our borders contradicts that notion entirely.

Smaller, upscale, and more local business is appropriate for out neighborhood. Shops similiar to the kinds of shops found in Bedford Falls is ideal. Isn’t Raleigh commericial enough?

November 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am
ecbrunk Says:

I could not agree more! Unless Golden Corral is planning to drastically change their market focus as well as their typical facility plans we are looking at yet another example of poor suburban design…An ugly restaurant with a huge (and sometimes neon) sign and a sea of parking. Can we not get something that people would want to walk to? I don’t forsee many people living in Ren Park walking up to go to Strayer University or Golden Corral.

November 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
jmtaylor Says:

There could not be 2 worse establishments to choose than GC and Strayer. I am insulted to have been lied to about a North Hills feel and then receiving this information. Renaissance Park obviously doesn’t know it’s residents or could just care less. I had hope that our neighborhood would be the beginning of change in SE Raleigh but hearing this news makes me want to put my house up for sale before these businesses lower my property value. I am unable to attend the meeting tonight due to working in the ER but I hope this message is heard. I have yet to speak with any neighbor who supports this decision. I pray these decisions are not already finalized and those in charge will actually consider what its residents want.

November 9th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Brian Says:

To add to my previous post, we are in DESPERATE need of a daycare here. That would be the most useful thing you could add to the neighborhood.

November 11th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
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